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over america. >> that was wayne lapierre, executive vice president of nra. joining me is patrick leahy of vermont. is that true? you know that's what some gun owners fear, is that a background check is nothing more than a way to get registration. >> no, it's not going to be registration. of course, the speaker knows that, but he's paid very well to stir up his membership and help increakreecrease dues-paying me. i think we need to stop the rhetoric. i'm a gun owner. a lot of people in my state of vermont are gun owners. i know the last time i went in to purchase a firearm, hi to go through a background check. i didn't have any problem with doing that. >> and what do they do with that information? when you go in and say, this is my name, address, phone number. no, don't have any mental health problems. they put it in a background check and what happens with that? >> they check to see if you told the truth and then it's cleared out. >> it gets deleted, is what you're saying. >> yes. but what happens, i don't mind having a background check for me, but i don't someone with two felonies for
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of people like you all over america. >> that was wayne lapierre, executive vice president of the nra speaking last night at the western hunting and conservation expo. joining me now is senate judiciary chairman patrick leahy of vermont. is that true? you know that's what some gun hunters, gun owners fear, that a background check is nothing more than a way to get registration? >> no, it's not going to be registration. of course the speaker knows that, but he's paid very well to stir up the -- his membership and to help increase dues paying members but we ought to lower the rhetoric and talk about reality. i'm a gun owner. a lot of people in my state are gun owners. i know the last time i went in to purchase a fire arms i had to go through a background check. i didn't have any problem with doing that. >> what do they do with this information? this is my name, this is my address, this is my phone number. i don't have any mental health problems. what do they do with this when they put it in a background check? >> if they are told the truth and it is cleared out -- >> deleted is what you'
, you're talking about wayne lapierre, not speaker boehner. >> no, no, not speaker boehner. >> what you're saying is all of that information, if you were a law-abiding citizen with no records, no mental health problems, whatever information you have given to that gun store or whoever that is then fed into for a background check, goes away. they press delete. so no one knows you own that. >> it's not a registration. you don't find out -- but if you've -- but if you've lied about it, then that is going to be retained. >> let me ask you, because there are so many issues coming to your committee. i wanted to ask you about immigration. you made an opening statement during one of your hearings that just said, you know, that you basically oppose the idea of tying border security to allowing undocumented workers to begin a pathway towards legalization. and yet what we're led to believe is bipartisan committee wants to do exactly that. >> no. what i'm saying is don't make the perfect -- the enemy of the good. if you say there must be total security before we can go forward, that's never goin
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